Stop saying that it’s ‘obvious’ that God exists

One of the problems with claiming that something is obviously true is that it’s basically a non-starter. That is, just because you saying something is just obviously the case, that does not mean that it really is.

But what is the claim being made? Saying that something is obvious must mean that it is obvious to someone. Well, if it seems obvious to you that God exists, then good for you (I guess). But when you then tell someone that this is the case, from a non-theist’s perspective, this is like telling them that it’s obvious that aliens exist (or that it’s obvious that Obama is still President). Just think what it would be like if someone came up to you and said it’s obvious that Thor exists-just look at the lightening!

Even if God exists, his existence isn’t as obvious as the nose on your face. Thus, I find it weird/implausible that a good chunk of Americans are absolutely certain that God exists. Heck, I’m not even absolutely certain that I’m not dreaming right now! It should also be noted that being absolutely certain of some claim is generally (if not always) irrational; you’re tactility consenting to the fact that nothing would/should change your mind.

All in all, I just find some theist’s attitude on this to be ridiculous. They act like agnostics and atheists are questioning whether water exists.

14 thoughts on “Stop saying that it’s ‘obvious’ that God exists

  1. Loy

    As you say, I can’t be sure that I exist, much less you or anything else exists.

    Is it reasonable to proceed anyway? Is it unreasonable to speculate that God is both real and incomprehensible, and to proceed anyway?

  2. If it were so obvious, then why did humans believe in all of those other gods for the first tens of thousands of years of our existence? Why did it take so long to discover which of the gods we thought were obvious was the real obvious one? Why is it not obvious now that there is a (meaning one) god and why do so many seem to exist? What do so many Christians have completely different ideas as to what their god is, if it is so obvious.

    What a ludicrous thing to say.

    1. The oldest human cultures were monotheistic. Polytheism developed later as civilization aged. Even in polytheistic religions, there usually exists the one “primary god” who is the most powerful.

      “Why do so many Christians have completely different ideas as to what their god is?”
      They don’t.
      This is a question atheists ask because they don’t understand theology.
      Why do so many Americans have completely different ideas as to what America is?

      1. It is totally wrong to think christians would all have the same idea and would be real monotheists. Those Christians who worship a Trinity in reality should be called polytheists, because their subgod Jesus has even lesser qualities or attributes in common than the main and subgods of polytheist groups.

        Real Christians do only believe in One True God, the god of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus and his disciples, Who is One and not two or three. Their God is the same God as Jews and Muslms, whilst we do find trinitarian Christians who have a God the Father, a god the son, and a God the Holy Spirit (clearly being three personalities with different qualities, one even not knowing everything like the Main God ‘God the Father’).

    2. Philosophy of Religion blog (Does God Exist?)

      Steve, who are you talking to? My point was that it’s NOT obvious that God exists!

    3. We would like to add “Why are there still so many christians worshipping a three-headed god instead of going for the One and Only One True God”? Real Christians, who believe in only One God and not the Trinity, have a very clear idea of Whom or What God is, because that can be clearly found in the Holy or Set-apart Scriptures.

  3. As you noted, you could be dreaming right now. Which means theists stating “God is obvious” are products of your own imagination. Just like this blog comment.

    As you intimated in your final sentence, there is nothing obvious about the existence of water. It’s possible that you are the only thing that actually exists and I am part of your dream.

  4. Grounds for endless speculation. The certainty that god/s exist lies in the conviction of believers. If those convictions are mistaken they are still not mistaken for the believers. However, two points lie in favour of some sort of higher being/s or purpose. One is the urge felt by all sentient beings throughout history to find a reason for existence in such. Another is the easily demonstrated order and purpose to be demonstrated in the universe by the urge towards development. Nothing is really static, and even where there is retraction it appears to be followed by even bigger expansion..
    The big bang was a spontaneous phenomenon? Implausible.
    The resulting developments were due to natural laws. Who made the laws? Oh, they were simply part of the nature of everything to start off with, were they? Hmmmmmm ;..

  5. Your point is to hought provoking: in light of Romans 1 that God was clearly seen since the beginning of the world so that those who do not believe are without excuse. Then does that mean that the existence of God is obvious? Especially since it takes effort to “suppress” knowledge of him?

    1. ScottPen

      The difficulty with quoting scripture in this context is that it’s circular reasoning. From an atheist (or really any non-“big-3”) perspective, the Bible’s description of the nature of God and His relationship with the world are irrelevant to this discussion.

      1. It seems important to point out that we all argue in a circle when we argue from our ultimate. Their ultimate is their own ability to reason and ours is The Bible. Our ultimate says that they are suppressing knowledge of God and as a result they reason foolishly. so should we not approach them with the assumption of our ultimate? I would recommend the book Greg Bahsen’s work called Presuppositional apologetics. Its good and goes more in depth

      2. Scott Pen you say atheist perspective and compare it as being really any non-“big-3” by which you also come to say that there are also some atheists who would believe in the One and True God but reject the trinity like any serious and sincere Christian should and would do. Real Christians do believe in Only One True God, the Divine Creator Jehovah and not in a Trinity (a three-headed or tri-une god) nor in a Dual godhead.

        The Bible’s description is very important, because that is the book which clearly gives a picture about Who and What God or the Being is.

  6. It seems important to point out that we all argue in a circle when we argue from our ultimate. Their ultimate is their own ability to reason and ours is The Bible. Our ultimate says that they are suppressing knowledge of God and as a result they reason foolishly. so should we not approach them with the assumption of our ultimate? I would recommend the book Greg Bahsen’s work called Presuppositional apologetics. Its good and goes more in depth

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